memorandum of understanding with franchises

  • 1690

    Organisations in other countries have started to spearhead 9carrots in their country. In order to safeguard the core principals of 9carrots we have develop this MOU with them. Its core points are that:

    • Anyone can do 9carrots and use all the stuff we have
    • No one should get rich from it: It has to be about change, not about personal financial reward
    • After an initial period, everything should be open source and copyleft
    • This MOU governs the international rights to use the 9carrots brand

    Because the MOU is a legal document, its current format cannot be changed and community input is bought into it periodically. Download the current PDF.

  • 1691

    Volume based charging

    - dec, 2010
    by anewholm

    Cost of 9carrots services and media is based on income to allow franchises to start up and expand safely. These aspects of the relationship are to be actively reviewed annually at the AGM. Note that it is up to 9carrotsUK to set these levels, not the Franchise.

    Limits and costs

    • first £5,000 - free 
    • income above £5000 @ 10% 
    • income above £50k @ 20% 
    • income above £150k @ 30% 
    • income above £250k @ 40% 
    Example: £55k = (0% x £5k) + (10% x £45k) + (20% x £5k) = £5,500 contribution to 9carrotsUK
    Note: Above fees DO NOT include funding from grants, whether accessed from public or private institutions.

    Receipt books cost

    Cost of Receipt books for £120,000 worth of installations = £1,200,000 / £300 book value = 4000 books. At £3 / book bulk rate this would be £12,000. Currently, we have a quote for £1500 for 400 books. However, the franchise could print them themselves. Note that in a mature 9carrots implementation, receipt books would be printed in bulk and with greater values, thus radically decreasing the cost per item.

    See the receipt book printing guide for details.

  • 1692

    Terms

    - aug, 2010
    by anewholm
    • 9carrots UK”: 9carrots registered UK company no. 7114851
    • 9carrots”: the 9carrots brand and scheme as defined by “9carrots UK”
    • franchise”: the legal entity wishing to promote and implement “9carrots” in their country
    • MOU: Memorandum Of Understanding between “9carrots UK” and the “franchise”
    • target country”: the country of the "franchise"
    • "director": legal director of the franchise
    • "voting member": franchise employees that have a vote in the management of the franchise. Relevant only if the franchise has the concept consensus and democracy for decisions, e.g. a workers co-operative
    • "contractor / staff": franchise employees that do not have a say in the management of the franchise
    • "community group": the people that implement the scheme in their community under the wing of the franchise
    • "Supplier": a supplier of environmental products / services for the local businesses to install
    • "local business": business that sign up to the 9carrots scheme in a community
    • RFC: Request For Comment
    • (please add): please add to this

     

  • 1693

    Responsibilities of the “franchise”

    - sep, 2010
    by anewholm

    The target country should have 1 single legal entity that governs and provides for any community group in that country, legal entity or not, to implement 9carrots in their area. The responsibilities of this central franchise include:

    • to provide limited liability to all people involved in implementing 9carrots in the country
    • where applicable to provide insurance cover to people involved in implementing 9carrots in the target country
    • to provide standard contracts for anyone to use as agreements with business, suppliers and any other stakeholders involved with 9carrots in the target country
    • to provide receipt books
    • to arrange printing of reciept books
    • to develop relationships with Suppliers for the community groups to get advice and carry out installations
    • to develop agreements with community groups that provide incentives, either monetary or otherwise, to implement 9carrots in their region
    • to determine any fees Local Business are charged for access to the 9Carrots system, and when these fees will come into effect
  • 1694

    Entrenched Institutional Requirements of 9carrots UK and all franchises

    - nov, 2010
    by anewholm

    Entrenched means that these requirements must be written in to the constitution of the franchise entity in a way that they cannot be changed.

    • Not for profit (the trading surplus must only be used in line with the Objects)
    • Members who have a democratic vote in the running of the business: e.g. Director or employee with voting rights: Maximum they can take out of the business in any form per year: £30k
    • Someone who doesn't have a democratic say in the running of the business: e.g. Contractor / non-voting Employee: Maximum they can take out of the business in any form per year: £60k (Maximum Hourly rate £32)
    • Cannot be sold for personal gain
    • Cannot be sold to a business that does not have these same entrenched provisions

    Financial amounts are UK GBP 2010 values and increase in line with the inflation in the country in question. Geographic variations within and between countries up to 5% are acceptable and should be reviewed annually.

    Pro-rata limits for director/staff remuneration may be reviewed annually by 9carrotsUK, and if needed adjusted to reflect changing economic conditions and wage rates in the country the Franchisee is operating in. (This conflicts with the entrenched rules - anewholm)
  • 1695

    Open Source, Copyleft and Resources Created

    - nov, 2010
    by anewholm

    Business plans and funding applications may be kept private indefinitely.

    The following resources are always to be made public: ideas, accounts, planning, business structure, marketing materials etc. In this way, anyone implementing 9carrots, a derivative or a similar scheme can benefit.

    The following elements can be kept private until deemed safe to expose: website code and architecture.

    It is recognised that unpaid work contributed to the project should be made public in return for the considerable unpaid work already contributed for general benefit. It is recognised that the opportunity cost of the total unpaid work gone in to 9carrots so far exceeds £100k. A funder is unlikely to accept any form of back dated pay / sale of assets in to the project. There can be no sale of existing work to the project. Either when funding arrives or when trading occurs.

  • 1696

    Funding and Payments for work

    - oct, 2010
    by anewholm

    It is recognised that any funding / activity is due to the inter connected efforts of all those who have developed and spread this idea.
    It is recognised that people bring different amounts to the table. They have, and will, put different amounts in over time and work on other projects. Discussions of who did the most should be avoided. Flat fixed hourly rate for all, up to the Maximum Hourly rate for contractors/employees.
    Detailed monthly accounts are to be transparent and publicly available including all details of remuneration.

  • 1697

    “Exclusive” Rights

    - nov, 2010
    by anewholm

    9carrots UK permits the franchise exclusive rights to implement the 9carrots scheme and brand in the target country indefinitely apart from the exceptions detailed below in the section Cancellation and 9carrots code of conduct.

    This includes free use of the website, media, contracts, uxd, design, communication and the right to use the 9carrots brand and email domain and identity in all communications. (please add)
    However, anyone is free to implement the idea under another name in whichever way they choose and, in fact, are free to attempt the idea without our support or knowledge. Thus, the exclusive rights are relevant only to the 9carrots brand. Not the idea or any derivative thereof.

    Any data created in the system by the franchise, or its activities, is the property of the franchise. If the franchise legal entity disbands, collapses or is in breach of the "code of conduct" or re-brands into another company then the rights to all the data immediately transfers to 9carrotsUK.

  • 1698

    Cancellation and 9carrots "code fo conduct"

    - nov, 2010
    by anewholm

    If the franchise is seen by 9carrots UK to be doing anything to damage the brand, 9carrots UK has the right to cancel this agreement. This cancellation does not interfere with the franchises rights to implement the idea under another identity and brand as stated above.

    In the event of a cancellation, the franchise is free to try and take all their customers to the new brand and 9carrotsUK may also attempt to retain them within the 9carrots system. Both parties may have access to the customer and business data although it will be owned by 9carrotsUK.

    If, after 2 years, the franchise is not successful (2000 transactions / year), 9carrots UK reserves the right to transfer these exclusive rights to somebody else.

    Process for Resolution of ethical disagreements

    Should 9Carrots UK determine that a franchisee is acting unethically in any way (i.e. fiscal mismanagement, damage to brand, entry of inappropriate Local Business into system, etc.) the following process will be undertaken to resolve the conflict. 9carrots UK will choose the Mediators and Arbitrators and incurr all legal fees for their hiring.

    1) Initial Notification of ethical disagreement:

    Once an ethical disagreement has been identified, an email must be sent to from the specificed 9Carrots UK email address (see below) to the specified franchisee board of directors and CEO email address outlining the issue, with the subject line "Notification of Ethical Disagreement" A response must be made by the franchisee within 5 business days, and all efforts taken to openly communicate and seek resolution of the ethical disagreement by both the franchisee and 9Carrots UK.

    Specificed 9Carrots UK email address

    __________________________________

    Specified Franchisee email address'

    __________________________________ (CEO)

    __________________________________ (Board Member)

    __________________________________ (Board Member)

    __________________________________ (Board Member)

    __________________________________ (Board Member)

    __________________________________ (Board Member)

    2) Second Notification of Ethical Disagreement:

    Should the disagreement persist within 10 business days of Franchisee's response to the Notification of Ethical Disagreement, or after 5 business days with no response, a second email will be sent notifying the franchisee board of directors and CEO of the issue, with the subject line "2nd Notification of Ethical Disagreement". A response must be made by the franchisee within 5 business days, and all efforts taken to openly communicate and seek resolution of the ethical disagreement by both the franchisee and 9Carrots UK.

    3) Third Notification of Ethical Disagreement:

    Should the disagreement persist within 10 business days of Franchisee's response to the 2nd Notification of Ethical Disagreement, or after 5 business days with no response, a second email will be sent notifying the franchisee board of directors and CEO of the issue, with the subject line "3rd Notification of Ethical Disagreement". A response must be made by the franchisee within 5 business days, and all efforts taken to openly communicate and seek resolution of the ethical disagreement by both the franchisee and 9Carrots UK.

    4) Notification of Mediation:

    Should the disagreement persist after 3 rounds of communication, a mediator must be utilized to resolve the conflict. Over the course of three mediation sessions, with attendance from representatives of 9Carrots UK and the Franchisee at a location and time accepted by both 9Carrots UK and the Franchisee, all efforst must be taken to openly communicate and seek resolution of the ethical disagreement by both the franchisee and 9Carrots UK. Should no response from the Franchisee Board of Directors and CEO come from their specified email address to arrange mediation sessions within 15 business days of notification of mediation, the Franchisee waives the rights to the mediation process.

    5) Notification of Arbitration:

    Should the issue persist after three rounds of mediation, an arbitrator will be utilized to resolve the conflict. Over the course of two arbitration sessions, with attendance from representatives of 9Carrots UK and the Franchisee at a location and time accepted by both 9Carrots UK and the Franchisee, all efforts must be taken to openly communicate and seek resolution of the ethical disagreement by both the franchisee and 9Carrots UK. If no resolution is found, the arbitrator will pass resolution binding all parties to their decision. Should no response from the Franchisee Board of Directors and CEO come from their specified email address to arrange arbitration sessions within 15 business days of notification of arbitration, the Franchisee waives the rights to the arbitration process and accepts any decision made by 9Carrots UK.

    9carrots code of conduct

    • No dealings with any company (local business or otherwise) that is not an SME, unless it has an Ethiscore and it is more than 15, unless with 9carrotsUK prior approval
    • 9carrots prefered suppliers, SMEs or otherwise, need not be "vetted" first but relationships must be cancelled if the Supplier is discovered to be in contradiction of point 1
    • Only advertise or sign up local businesses that reach the acceptability criteria below
    • No use of 9carrots funds in a way that causes potentially brand damaging environmental damage, including, but not limited to:
      • constant replacement of appliances with newer models
      • encouragement of consumers to increase their consumption
      • business use of airplanes
      • purchase of meat (e.g. steaks for everyone at an installation party)
      • use of non-electric company cars
  • 1699

    Working together

    - aug, 2010
    by anewholm

    9carrots UK and any franchise should help each other as much as possible. This includes collaboration over business plan development, graphic design, etc.

  • 1700

    Transparency

    - aug, 2010
    by anewholm

    9carrots UK and any franchise must provide its full transaction history and current accounts on request.

  • 1701

    Acceptable local business criteria

    - sep, 2010
    by anewholm
    • Maximum branches: 10
    • Maximum number of employees: 100
    • Maximum turnover: £1 million
    Application For Exception
    Should a Local Business not fall in line with the Code Of Conduct required by 9Carrots, but wish to be a part of the program they may submit an Application For Exception. This Application For Exception will be submitted to the Franchisee of their country of operation, and the Franchisee will make the local 9Carrots community aware of the application (via email?) and host it online for public review for a period of 30 days. Should no Substantial Objection (this needs to be better defined... perhaps by a lawyer) be raised within the period of review, a poll will be opened for 10 business days for 9Carrots users to vote in favor or against the Application For Exception. Should 80%+ of the 9Carrots community vote in favor of the Application for Exception, the application will go through a final review by 9CarrotsUK for 10 business days. If the Application For Exception is approved, the applying business will be permitted entry into the 9Carrots system. If at any time the Application For Exception is found to be untruthful or contain any misrepresentation of facts or issues past or present, the applying Local Business will be immediately put under probation, and if deemed fitting by the Franchisee removed in entirety from the 9Carrots system with no due recourse. Throughout the entire process of the Application For Exception all information will be made publicly available, including decisions made at every step of the process whether in favor or against the applying Local Business.

discussion

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  • 2154
    Director / staff member renumeration
    - sep, 2010
    by anewholm
    I am very uneasy about the prospect of 9carrots paying someone, for example, £100k / year. Diverting that amount of money to someone who "thinks they deserve it" when we are trying to fight a global problem that is intrinsically linked to financial greed is an issue. Firstly because that level of greed and arrogance upsets me personally. Secondly because others will also judge that negatively and it will reduce the level of immediate trust from other social sector organisations that has been so key to our success so far. People trust us, let's not break that.
    
    I also believe that it is always possible to find good, competent people who actually believe as well. 
    
    My experience of grey (non-precise) legal agreements is that they are legally useless.
    
    Thoughts? Counter-arguments?
  • 2155
    Incentives for local groups to implement 9carrots
    - sep, 2010
    by anewholm
    The UK model is that we are providing them with a model that achieves something that they have been trying to do for ages. We give them control over it and work *for them*, not them for us. 9carrots UK works to the agenda of its partners.
    
    This attitude has meant that there has been an enormous take up and interest in implementing the scheme from local groups.
    
    This is just a comment, rather than a criticism. A request for more thoughts on the matter.
  • 2156
    volume based charging
    - sep, 2010
    by anewholm
    I have been thinking that we should actually just charge based on yearly income and nothing else. Remove all the other limits. This makes everything simpler and safer no?
    
    It could be graded thus (all yearly):
    * first £2000 - free
    * income above £2000 @ 10%
    * income above £10k @ 20%
    * income above £50k @ 30%
    * income above £100k @ 40%
    This naturally means that the bigger a franchise gets, the more it contributes to others struggling to start around the world.
  • 2157
    Open Source, Copyleft and Resources Created
    - sep, 2010
    by anewholm
    All the information required to assemble a business plan for 9carrots is already available on the community area. Anyone can access it. Anyone wishing to copy the idea under another name would need to develop the website which would cost about £20k. They would also need to write the business plan and funding applications. Bear in mind that the back end code for this entire system is publicly available already. Copying the on-line systems is currently simply a matter of downloading it.
    
    I guess that hiding the actual business plan puts one extra barrier to someone copying the idea under a different name. But why would we want to stop them?
    However, it is also a barrier to everyone helping to write and test the business plan. Classic Open Source software discussion!
    
    The only worry I have about someone copying the idea is that they mess it up by trying to make themselves rich from it. I don't per-se want to stop others implementing this idea.
    
    Thoughts?
  • 2158
    Arbitration and Code of Conduct
    - sep, 2010
    by anewholm
    Great new addition on arbitration section. Well done! We should probably put in a note on who chooses the mediators / arbitrators.
    
    Our concerns about involving larger companies go beyond brand damage. Larger companies often have expensive lawyers, are acutely profit motivated and very aggressive. Involving them is dangerous because they can take over.
    
    9carrots is supposed to help non-currently-ethical (improving?) Local Business improve in a positive way. Local Businesses that are already very ethical in nature don't fit in to 9carrots very well. The ethical Local Business directory aspect of 9carrots is being discussed still. 9carrots is also about local community, small suppliers and a solution to Climate Change. Very big business does not fit in to that easily.
    
    I would be happy to increase the limits on Local Business types, but not to the level where they become dangerous to us.
    
    Getting bigger businesses involved in other ways, e.g. sponsorship, staff secondments, advertising, etc. is more about protecting the brand.
  • 2159
    Local Business acceptance criteria
    - sep, 2010
    by anewholm
    Maybe we could remove the clause "No chains or franchises". We have a maximum branch limit of 10. Does it really matter how they are organised? Remember, 9carrots is supposed to deal with currently-non-ethical (improving?) Local Business anyway, so let's not impose ethical standards on their mode of organisation. As long as they cannot threaten us with their size and power.
  • 2217
    Director / staff member renumeration #2
    - sep, 2010
    by joshpschmidt
    Agreed that there should be some mechanism to prevent philandering. Once again, I feel that having the "resolution of Ethical Disagreement" will resolve many of these issues since 9Carrots UK will have the power to pull the system should they see unethical conduct taking place in any form. With monthly/quarterly/annual internal (note: internal statements are highly detailed) financial statements this should allow 9Carrots UK to identify problems.
    
    I certainly agree that maintaining positive community relations is essential, and that someone should NOT be payed if they are not deserving. At the same time, I firmly believe that effort = reward and that to retain skilled personnel they need to be compensated adequately. For example, I have the pleasure of sitting on the Board for CM (see my personal email for clarification of this acronym, since I don't want to publicly display their internal information), an organization purely powered by community and their belief in the organizations principals and conduct. They are also developing a web portal tool that will be franchised out to regional partners, much like you 9Carrots. They are willing to pay part-time workers 50k, and a full time CEO 100k+. This is because they realize that to keep an organization growing and retain incredible people they need to be remunerated appropriately, otherwise they will leave for greener pastures. While staff within CM are not receiving anywhere near that level of payment yet, it provides them the motivation to keep going because not only does the organization align with their passion but will provide for them as well. They could keep working their for the rest of their life, support a family, and live well. That's powerful. That's sustainable (The best definition of sustainability I have ever heard is that it equals positive long-term relationships. With the planet, with people, with everything). I have similarly spoken with mentors who served in a coop with capped salaries, who stated that it was great and their heart was in it but that ultimately they had to leave due to the financial situation.
    
    In regards to the public questioning spending, a key part of this organization is transparency. We SHOULD provide the public our internal, highly detailed, financial statements so they can question our ethics. Maybe it comes to pass that there is improper remunaration occurring... if this is the case then things would proceed to the "resolution of ethical disagreement." If a franchisee is at the point that they can pay a CEO 100k+, 9CarrotsUK will be able to afford the cost of mediators/arbitrators to sort it out.
    
    So where do we go from here? What mechanism do we put in place that has legally binding intent?
    
    1) All highly detailed monthly/quarterly/annual internal financial statements are to be made publicly available for review
    2) All highly detailed internal financial statements are to be made available for review by 9Carrots UK
    3) Staff wages are to be set by the Franchisee, and will be tied to an hourly wage competitive with the region. Competitive Hourly regional wages will be highlighted on every internal financial statements, with resource(s) used to determine said wages.
    4) Should wages be determined unethical, 9CarrotsUK retains the right to enter into the "Resolultion of Ethical Disagreement" process and proof must be provided that wages have been earned and are deserving. For example, hitting/missing performance benchmarks (which we are including, such as 2000 transactions a year, and are an integral piece of any organization), hours clocked, etc... 
    
    Thoughts?
    
  • 2218
    Incentives for local groups to implement 9carrots #2
    - sep, 2010
    by joshpschmidt
    What I was thinking here was that it would be cool to support local groups get some revenue from their activities with 9Carrots. Maybe it's a stipend, like 5% of membership fees for Local Business that sign up due to their effort. This way they can get some funding to take on other positive community activities!
    
    A big part of my interest in the 9Carrots model is that it has transformative power! It paves the way for the realization that money is just a tool, and it is our values that should be the key decision making process in everything we do. At the same time, realizing that money is a tool, we still all need to be able to make a living and "make a difference while making a dollar" as one of my mentors likes to say. I thought hey, why not get other community groups to take on this model and give them a little bit of reward, empowering them to do even more good. Once again, my belief is that effort = reward, and I think that this idea is powerful/profitable enough that everyone can get a piece of the pie!
  • 2219
    volume based charging #2
    - sep, 2010
    by joshpschmidt
    Totally agree with this! Much easier and understandable.
    
    I would change things up a bit though...
    
    * first £5,000 - free
    * income above £5000 @ 10%
    * income above £50k @ 20%
    * income above £150k @ 30%
    * income above £250k @ 40%
    Note: Above fees DO NOT include funding from grants, whether accessed from public or private institutions.
    
    This will probably still need to be tailored based off the financial requirements of the Franchisee, including payment of staff and expensenses, etc... will put more thought into this based off potential revenues. A big help as well to temper the income split would be the amount of time your new staff will be putting in. Please have them track their effort! This will allow me to know what hourage/payment staff would receive here in my area.
    
    Another factor with this is what 9CarrotsUK is doing with the monies received. If things are wildly successful here, and I am sending over potentially 100k+ a year I want to know what you are doing with that money and how it is further developing 9Carrots. This goes back to the concept of having a vote in how 9CarrotsUK is run as a franchisee, keeping you ethical as well (I know you guys are ethical, but as you say it's always better to have things legally determined before-hand.) Perhaps the number of votes could coincide with the amount of funds sent over (i.e. $1k to 9CarrotsUK = 1vote)? This might create an issue where larger countries have more sway... not sure about how to resolve that. Could just do 1 vote per country.
    
    We also spoke about a consensus based system. I think this is a great idea, and the optimal path to take. Will this make this potentially difficult? yes. Will it result in better decisions? yes. I recommend checking out the following wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus_decision-making#Non-unanimous_consensus) on consensus based models and "non-unanimous consensus" models, and continue discussing various methods for consensus. In regards to the issue of having franchisee's all over the world achieve consensus, initially with only a few franchisee's I don't see too many issues stalling progress especially if they are like-minded individuals (like you guys and myself!). As more countries come on board and as the organization becomes profitable the ability to organize video-conferencing and in-person AGM's (Annual General Meetings) becomes a real possibility. The cost of such conferences/agm's could be part of where the 9CarrotsUK monies go as well.
    
    Thoughts?
  • 2220
    Open Source, Copyleft and Resources Created #2
    - sep, 2010
    by joshpschmidt
    Hmmm.... first off let me say that I LOVE that you guys want everything to be open-source. This is how the world SHOULD BE, transparent and open and honest. The issue is that right now the world is full of two-bit swindlers and thieves looking to make a quick buck.
    
    So what do we do? 
    
    We compromise!
    
    Personally I don't know how much feedback you guys have received on your open-source code? How much have you recieved?!?! Are you getting any reward from the risk of having someone copy and distort your platform?
    
    I know that I could steal the code, go to my contacts in the venture capital world, get $250,000+ in funding and be off to the races cutting you out of the deal. 95% of my business connections/colleagues tell me to do this, however, I refuse. I do not want to rip you guys off because I like you, believe in what you are doing, want to support your vision, and live/die by my ethics. Hence my long-winded comments to achieve consensus between us.... I believe in what you are doing is right.
    
    Another reason I want some protection for the 9Carrots code and business plan is to protect myself. If I put in a ton of effort to help you prove the business model and get it off the ground, the last thing I want is some other person in North America or elsewhere to run off with the plan and code, polish it with a ton of VC money, and push us out of the market. That would suck!
    
    So here's my suggestions:
    
    1) Initially during the start-up stage of 9CarrotsUK we have both internal  and external information.
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    Internal = solid foundation that cannot be shaken. Information will be shared freely between 9CarrotsUK, Franchisee, and Community Group assuming each has signed an NDA (Non-disclosure agreement), such as: grant applications, business plans, certain legal documentation, graphics/brand, code for 9Carrots platform. 
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    External = publicly available information, such as: NDA for community groups & franchisee, High-level strategic direction of the organization, Financial statements.
    
    2) as the 9Carrots platform becomes profitable and solid in its brand and design, with a large community growing daily and proven profitability we open things up. Now its time to go balls to the wall and make EVERYTHING open source. The business plan, the code, everything. The time for protecting ourselves is over. Now its time to let the world know we are going open source, winning their hearts and capitalizing on the ton of minds now available to assist us chart our course and be the best we can possibly be!
    
     
    Now, I don't know all the details but I am willing to guess you haven't received a ton of feedback. If you have and its been extremely valuable maybe you want to keep the code open source. Maybe its a critical mechanism in gaining funding... I don't know. Please inform me of the current state of affairs in regards to feedback, consider what I have put forth above, and provide me your thoughts.
    
    
    
  • 2221
    Arbitration and Code of Conduct #2
    - sep, 2010
    by joshpschmidt
    You know what. I say lets hammer down some details that can be put in writing and make it as fleshed out as possible.
    
    In addition to all the requirements, however, we also add a clause called something like "Reasonable Exceptions"
    
    Application For Exception
    -------------------------------
    Should a Local Business not fall in line with the Code Of Conduct required by 9Carrots, but wish to be a part of the program they may submit an Application For Exception. This Application For Exception will be submitted to the Franchisee of their country of operation, and the Franchisee will make the local 9Carrots community aware of the application (via email?) and host it online for public review for a period of 30 days. Should no Substantial Objection (this needs to be better defined... perhaps by a lawyer) be raised within the period of review, a poll will be opened for 10 business days for 9Carrots users to vote in favor or against the Application For Exception. Should 80%+ of the 9Carrots community vote in favor of the Application for Exception, the application will go through a final review by 9CarrotsUK for 10 business days. If the Application For Exception is approved, the applying business will be permitted entry into the 9Carrots system. If at any time the Application For Exception is found to be untruthful or contain any misrepresentation of facts or issues past or present, the applying Local Business will be immediately put under probation, and if deemed fitting by the Franchisee removed in entirety from the 9Carrots system with no due recourse. Throughout the entire process of the Application For Exception all information will be made publicly available, including decisions made at every step of the process whether in favor or against the applying Local Business.
    
    How's that?
  • 2222
    Local Business acceptance criteria #2
    - sep, 2010
    by joshpschmidt
    Agree in full with you here. Its about what they are willing to do, assuming they aren't going to damage the 9Carrots brand by openly polluting or some such nonsense.
    
    Similarly businesses with 10 or more chains could always apply via the Application For Exception.
  • 2223
    Arbitration and Code of Conduct #3
    - sep, 2010
    by joshpschmidt
    In regards to sponsorship, lets nail down some basic criteria to follow making things legally binding and include some form of an Application For Exception that the franchisee would put togethor for review by 9CarrotsUK.
    
    On the downside, this would add an additional hassle to make a sponsorship application on the Franchisee's part... still, good decisions aren't made in haste.
  • 2390
    RE: Director / staff member renumeration
    - sep, 2010
    by anewholm
    We are coming at this from fundamentally different angles and so we need to compromise instead of trying to meet in the middle. We have fundamentally different definitions of "reward" and "deserve" which will prevent us being able to discuss this effectively and thus resolve any issues later.
    There is a figure where 9carrotsUK would want to step in to prevent "unethical" behaviour and / or potential brand damage with regards to staff remuneration. I want to set that figure now, rather than later. The £60k pro-rata limit was supposed to be that. It is already a very high earning easily capable of keeping 2 families alive. Can we accept this level as a compromise?
    
    What we regard as unethical is not the only important aspect here. It is also about appearing ethical to all our potential partners as well in order to ensure the institutional co-operation that is key to this project. There are certainly too many people in the social sector that would view a £100k salary as entirely unethical.
    
    I have also noticed that highly paid individuals are not the gold mine that they are made out to be. In fact, I would say there is a reverse correlation between competency and pay. I have seen so much corruption, greed and arrogance from highly paid individuals that has completely destroyed businesses. And so, it is worth going the extra mile and finding people who are prepared to do the job for less as they are actually more likely to be better at it. That is, of course, the business of the franchise to decide.
  • 2391
    Re: Incentives for local groups to implement 9carrots
    - sep, 2010
    by anewholm
    Yep :)
    
    I have changed this point from red to black in the main wiki now.
  • 2392
    Re: volume based charging
    - sep, 2010
    by anewholm
    I have changed the Wiki in line with the income based recommendation now (Joshua's limits). Much simpler! I think that I was over-concerned about resource issues at our end.
    
    Because 9carrotsUK has a strong legally binding constitution preventing any money being used for personal gain, there is no need to encourage 9carrotsUK to act ethically. It cannot legally do otherwise. Or, to put it another way, because of its constitution, it would be very easy to stop if it did. Its legally binding "Objects" (see Articles) additionally limit what the monies can be spent on. Currently this constitution is not "entrenched", that is, it can be changed by a majority vote from directors. This is something I want to change soon.
    
    I believe that anyone having a full casting vote in 9carrotsUK would need to be in-line with the general principles of the other voters. At the moment this is not the case with regards to the "effort = reward" area. Maybe the franchisee voting could be limited to the direction of some of the funds that they provide. But that those funds cannot be directed back to the same franchise without 9carrotsUK agreement. This would mean that the franchisee could adopt, advise and help another starting franchisee somewhere, or carry out global marketing or such like.
    
    WDYT?
  • 2393
    Re: Open Source, Copyleft and Resources Created
    - sep, 2010
    by anewholm
    Ok. I have no problem with Joshua protecting his business plan and funding applications. I also understand that open source does leave the model open to being copied and implemented more widely but badly and thus failing to make the real social change we are hoping for. I would like to continue with our open source approach however with regards to funding applications, this MOU, our Articles of association, ideas, TODO lists and planning. We will not be creating a business plan because they are not required for grant funding applications in the UK. Is that a good approach Joshua? Or do you feel that we are still too open?
    
    The reality is, of course, that I have not had time to externalise all the code properly. So effectively we will remain closed source until we get funding anyway. Also, because only a few people know about the community area, no one has yet contributed. Our open source attitude has helped us though.
  • 2394
    Re: Open Source, Copyleft and Resources Created
    - sep, 2010
    by anewholm
    I meant in the last post, that I am happy to keep the code closed source for the time being. And, as Joshua suggests, we can open source it all once we have a good market position.
  • 2395
    Private Investment
    - sep, 2010
    by anewholm
    @Joshua: You have mentioned private investment a couple of times. You have understood that you cannot legally apply for dividend paying investment from the not-for-profit structure? You will only be able to apply for non-repayable grants and bank loans.
    
    I also ask this because it is very unusual for a grant fund provider to ask for a business plan. And thus, what purpose are you intending on creating the business plan for?
  • 2805
    Re: Director/Staff Renumeration
    - oct, 2010
    by joshpschmidt
    I think we can agree on the £60k pro-rata limit. I am not trying to go for an unethical amount, and appreciate you guys outlining your concerns. One thing I would like to add in is an annual evaluation of pro-rata limits regarding renumeration, maybe something like:
    
    "Pro-rata limits for director/staff remuneration will be reviewed annually, and if needed adjusted to reflect changing economic conditions and wage rates in the country the Franchisee is operating in."
    
    
  • 2806
    Re: Open Source, Copyleft and Resources Created
    - oct, 2010
    by joshpschmidt
    Glad to hear that this is an area we are in agreement upon keeping the code itself internal at the moment. I feel that at the appropriate time and place going fully open-source will generate a tremendous amount of feedback and even further community engagement.
    
    I don't think there is any clear way to outline when the code can go open source... I am comfortable having a tacit agreement with you guys on this.
    
    
  • 2807
    Re: Private Investment
    - oct, 2010
    by joshpschmidt
    I do realize that private investment is not an option for non-profit enterprises. Similalry, I understand that a business plan is not usually a requirement by funding bodies, and see it more as a strategic forecasting/modeling tool that would also assist in gaining buy-in from other parties (i.e. potential board of directors, etc.)
    
    The reason I bring up the plan and private investment togethor is due to the potential for misuse by others should they wish to run off with the 9Carrots code/model and start a for-profit enterprise (as some of my colleagues have suggested), meaning the plan would be an excellent tool for them to gain funding.
    
    Hope that clarifies everything!
    
    On a side note, a big part of the business plan for me is the financial forecasting. By understanding various costs on the Franchisee's end and on 9CarrotsUK end, it will be much easier to nail down volume-pricing that allows both organizations to thrive and support the staff/expenses necessary to maintain its success.
  • 2808
    Re: volume based charging
    - oct, 2010
    by joshpschmidt
    Lets keep toying around with this one. I like the idea of a franchisee having a say in the use of funds it has specifically piped over to 9CarrotsUK, and when considering larger capital investments it makes sense that 9CarrotsUK would then have to ensure several franchisee's are on board with the proposed use of funds. (ie. Make revamps to system costing 100k, requiring say 4-5 franchisees to review and approve the use of funds)
    
    This would also avoid potential costly delays from using a consensus model while still ensuring input is garnered from franchisees. Can you guys type something up for this that I could review?
    
    
  • 2809
    Re: volume based charging
    - oct, 2010
    by joshpschmidt
    Just a note in regards to my pricing: it is still very rough without any backing from costs/time required to maintain the system. While I certainly don't expect to be overwhelmed with costs (receipt books, staff, etc.), its always good to have a contingency in place should there be any issues.
    
    As per other parts of the MOU, I suggest having the volume-based charging up for annual review (maybe at the 9Carrots AGM) to ensure that if there are any issues we can air them and find an appropriate solution. This is all going to be a figuring out process, and by maintaining honest and open communication I have no doubt we will be able to define the 9Carrots model for all our success.
  • 3524
    Acceptable local business criteria
    - oct, 2010
    by joshpschmidt
    Just checked out the BALLE (Business Alliance for Local Living Economies), which has a strong emphasis on buying local as part of their "Look Local First" program which has been instituted in a variety of communities. They list the following as some ways to identify if a business is local:
    
       1.  Is the business privately held (not publicly traded)?
       2. Do the business owners, totaling greater than 50 percent of the business ownership, live in your local region?
       3. Is the business registered in your state, with no corporate or national headquarters outside your region?
       4. Can the business make independent decisions regarding the name and look of the business, as well as all business purchasing, practices, and distribution?
       5. Does the business pay all its own rent, marketing expenses, and other expenses (without assistance from a corporate headquarters)?
    
    Maybe this can assist in defining criteria for what consitutes a local business accessing 9Carrot?
  • 3538
    Acceptable local business criteria and BALLE
    - oct, 2010
    by anewholm
    My initial thoughts on this is that it would be very difficult to get a business on board if they had to answer all these questions to check that they were applicable. At the moment I just say "are you an independent business?". I check the number of branches but that's about it.
  • 3539
    Other suggested changes
    - oct, 2010
    by anewholm
    I have put Joshuas' other suggestions in to the text and changed much red to black:
    
    "Pro-rata limits for director/staff remuneration will be reviewed annually, and if needed adjusted to reflect changing economic conditions and wage rates in the country the Franchisee is operating in."
    
    "I suggest having the volume-based charging up for annual review (maybe at the 9Carrots AGM)"
  • 3540
    Canadian Ethiscore?
    - oct, 2010
    by anewholm
    Does anyone know of a Canadian equivalent to EthicalConsumer?
  • 3863
    Franchise voting rights within 9carrotsUK
    - nov, 2010
    by anewholm
    The Franchise's business relies heavily on the central 9carrotsUK systems. It can be seen then, that the franchise would be much happier if they had some say in their development. Does this extend to full control, e.g. control over the business structure etc.
    What if 10 franchises join and then out-number the votes from the 9carrotsUK directors?
    
    I think that it would make sense for all franchises to be involved in product design and development decisions and workshops and that those decisions would be run on a consensus basis with everyone having an equal vote.

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